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Might of Earth probably should be folded into Earth Rage, perhaps swapping something out for Fissure.

I can see merit in adding some other "My name is huge" stuff to Kaiju and renaming it Titan.

Maxus did lasers:
Lasers

• Hyperbeam
• Solar Beam
• Ice Beam
• Aurora Beam
• Psybeam
• Bubblebeam
• Signal Beam
• Zap Cannon
• Focus Blast
• Flash Cannon

(I added a few to it)

A few others that need covering, too:

Piggy
Hippo
Mirror Magic
Spring Attacker
Shapeshifter

Though arguably Hippo could be folded into Piggy as each has very few Pokemon and, according to a reliable source (Borat), hippos are pigs. Shapeshifter could possibly be folded into Ditto.

We could probably make the numeric Dex, yeah

By the way, Dark Void should be added to Nightmare list.

Water Fowl

• Tailwind
• Roost
• Fly
• Gust
• Dive
• Water Gun
• Hydro Pump
• Wing Attack
• Mist
• Air Slash
• Water Pulse
• Supersonic
• Water Layer
• Defog
• Hail
• Rain Dance

Note: wherever I use Mud Layer and Water Layer, it's to replace ___ Sport. Nothing wrong with Mud Sport, but I can't stand the idea of a move called Water Sport. If you don't know why, Google it.

Wading Pool

• Splash!
• Surf
• Waterfall
• Aqua Jet
• Rain Dance
• Mist
• Tickle
• Hydro Pump
• Water Layer
• Bubble
• Bubble Beam
• Ice Fang
• Whirlpool
• Water Gun
• Aqua Tail
• Ice Beam

Note: wherever I use Mud Layer and Water Layer, it's to replace ___ Sport. Nothing wrong with Mud Sport, but I can't stand the idea of a move called Water Sport. If you don't know why, Google it.

That's understandable. But I really think that half the fun of Cloysters (the innuendo pokemon) is the fact that they have:

Withdraw
Attract
Clamp
Endure
Torment

and so on. And they look like a giant vagina with a pierced clit.



The fact that there's a whole world of fun to be had with Swampert, based on the fact that his mudshot comes right from his midsection and can have a move called "water sport" is just icing on the innuendo salad.

-Username17

Fair enough then, we'll keep Water Sport. I suppose a bit of giggling from time to time doesn't hurt (see: Great Cleave).

Mirror Magic

• Magic Coat
• Mirror Coat
• Reflect
• Encore
• Mimic
• Copycat
• Counter
• Destiny Bond
• Roleplay
• Double Team
• Substitute
• Trick

Spring Attacker

• Bounce
• Agility
• Stomp
• Sky Uppercut
• High Jump Kick
• Iron Tail
• Dizzy Punch
• U-Turn

Kaiju/Titan

• Ancient Power
• Aura Sphere
• Stomp
• Hyper Beam
• Recover
• Heal Block
• Earthquake
• Giga Impact

Mounted Combat

• Tackle
• Stomp
• Agility
• Bounce
• Double Kick
• Tail Whip
• Trample
• Spirited Charge

Geomancy

• Ancient Power
• Mud Sport
• Mud Slap
• Hail
• Blizzard
• Mist
• Sandstorm
• Rock Tomb
• Earth Power
• Rain Dance
• Sunny Day
• Clear Sky
• Block
• Magnitude
• Harden
• Rock Slide

Gadgeteer

• Grass Knot
• Poltergeist
• Present
• Object Possession
• Mirror Shot
• Hidden Power
• Nature Power
• Recycle

Piggy

• Splash!
• Rest
• Snore
• Odour Sleuth
• Tackle
• Yawn
• Take-Down
• Body Slam

FrankTrollman wrote:Also added a lot of D&D monsters to various lists and cross linked a few of the multi-typers. Are there any more Pokemon that need to be added or can we start making the numeric Pokedex?

There's still some conflicts between the lists on Formian Queen, Lanturn, Poliwrath, Couatl, Succubus, and maybe some I missed. Ice Mephit is on the Ice list twice.

Type issues:

• Epimeliad currently isn't on the Grass list, which means that Dryads would lose their Grass type on evolution, which is just weird.
• Nimblewrights look like they should be Steel/Fighting rather than Steel.
• Bulbasaur is Grass/Poison according to Bulbapedia, but it isn't on the Poison list. I'm personally fine with us leaving it pure Grass-type, as long as I know that's an actual decision.
• Thoqqua seems like it should be either Fire/Ground or Fire/Rock than the pure Fire it's listed as.

We don't have Air, Earth, or Water Weirds, of the ones that actually appear in D&D. Also no Unicorns, unless we're folding those into Rapidash or something. None of the color-coded dragons are on their respective lists other than the red dragons on the fire list. Chimeras are also not there that I can see.

...

Also, I have no idea what the heck Absur'd is supposed to be, beyond an evolution of Farfetch'd. O_o

Okay, so, Abilities. Shouldn't be too hard to get a list of them:

• Adaptability
• Aftermath
• Air Lock
• Anger Point
• Anticipation
• Arena Trap
• Bad Dreams
• Battle Armour
• Blaze
• Chlorophyll
• Clear Body
• Cloud Nine
• Colour Change
• Compound Eyes
• Cute Charm
• Damp
• Download
• Drizzle
• Drought
• Dry Skin
• Early Bird
• Effect Spore
• Filter
• Flame Body
• Flash Fire
• Flower Gift
• Forecast
• Frisk
• Gluttony
• Guts
• Heatproof
• Honey Gather
• Huge Power
• Hustle
• Hydration
• Hyper Cutter
• Ice Body
• Illuminate
• Immunity
• Inner Focus
• Insomnia
• Intimidate
• Iron Fist
• Keen Eye
• Klutz
• Leaf Guard
• Levitate
• Lightning Rod
• Limber
• Liquid Ooze
• Magic Guard
• Magma Armour
• Magnet Pull
• Marvel Scale
• Minus
• Mold Breaker
• Motor Drive
• Multitype
• Natural Cure
• No Guard
• Normalise
• Oblivious
• Overgrow
• Own Tempo
• Pick Up
• Plus
• Poison Heal
• Poison Point
• Pressure
• Pure Power
• Quick Feet
• Rain Dish
• Reckless
• Rivalry
• Rock Head
• Rough Skin
• Run Away
• Sand Stream
• Sand Veil
• Scrappy
• Serene Grace
• Shadow Tag
• Shed Skin
• Shell Armour
• Shield Dust
• Simple
• Skill Link
• Slow Start
• Sniper
• Snow Cloak
• Snow Warning
• Solar Power
• Solid Rock
• Sound Proof
• Speed Boost
• Stall
• Static
• Steadfast
• Stench
• Sticky Hold
• Storm Drain
• Sturdy
• Suction Cups
• Super Luck
• Swarm
• Swift Swim
• Synchronise
• Tangled Feet
• Technician
• Thick Fat
• Tinted Lens
• Torrent
• Trace
• Truant
• Unaware
• Unburden
• Vital Spirit
• Volt Absorb
• Water Absorb
• Water Veil
• White Smoke
• Wonder Guard

And that's a lot, but it's manageable. A few are so similar that it could be trimmed down a bit.

Mephits would get:
Plate Holder: their type changes when they are given the right kind of elemental plate to hold.

I can see the dragons getting something in the region of Shed Skin/Intimidate. Pretty standard.

Nymphs probably get Cute Charm, maybe Sirines and Dryads too, though Sirines could also have Swift Swim or Water Absorb or something, and Dryads could possibly have Chlorophyll or something.

I could see the Archons all having Intimidate or Pressure (Aura of Menace). Obviously I want to say Slaad all get "Giant Frog", but maybe they should get an actual ability that does something.

Tiamat could get the boring Pressure for being a Legendary, or could have something related to having FIVE HEADS (possibly even a "Your Breath Weapons all do more damage") or something.

Succubus: Cute Charm? Marilith: Shed Skin?

Quantumboost wrote:Also, I have no idea what the heck Absur'd is supposed to be, beyond an evolution of Farfetch'd. O_o

That's exactly what it is. Last time I was regularly on any pokemon battling forums it was sort of a recurring thing. I thought it'd be nice to add.

Jilocasin wrote:

Quantumboost wrote:Also, I have no idea what the heck Absur'd is supposed to be, beyond an evolution of Farfetch'd. O_o

That's exactly what it is. Last time I was regularly on any pokemon battling forums it was sort of a recurring thing. I thought it'd be nice to add.

Ah. Okay. That makes more sense, it seemed to come out of nowhere.

Quantumboost wrote:

FrankTrollman wrote:Also added a lot of D&D monsters to various lists and cross linked a few of the multi-typers. Are there any more Pokemon that need to be added or can we start making the numeric Pokedex?

There's still some conflicts between the lists on Formian Queen, Lanturn, Poliwrath, Couatl, Succubus, and maybe some I missed. Ice Mephit is on the Ice list twice.

Type issues:

• Epimeliad currently isn't on the Grass list, which means that Dryads would lose their Grass type on evolution, which is just weird.
• Nimblewrights look like they should be Steel/Fighting rather than Steel.
• Bulbasaur is Grass/Poison according to Bulbapedia, but it isn't on the Poison list. I'm personally fine with us leaving it pure Grass-type, as long as I know that's an actual decision.
• Thoqqua seems like it should be either Fire/Ground or Fire/Rock than the pure Fire it's listed as.

We don't have Air, Earth, or Water Weirds, of the ones that actually appear in D&D. Also no Unicorns, unless we're folding those into Rapidash or something. None of the color-coded dragons are on their respective lists other than the red dragons on the fire list. Chimeras are also not there that I can see.

Currently, Unicorns are folded into Rapidash. Everything else fixed. Whew.

-Username17

Okay, I assume the next step will be assigning stats to the Pokemon (as well as deciding what the rate of stat increase will be - should higher-cost Pokemon just get higher base stats, or should they also get more per level?) and assigning Abilities.

Also if we decide on the standards for moves, we can begin the process of statting out the actual moves.

For example:
(A = user, X = targets are hit in this square, B = user's final position (if different from A. The moves can be rotated in 90 degree increments.)

Ember Prepared Power [Fire]
Level: Fire Master 2, Fire Starter 2
Attack: automatic
Damage: 1d6 Fire per 2 levels
-Not Very Effective: 1d4 Fire per 2 levels
-Super Effective: 1d6 Fire per level
Added Effect: Intelligence vs Hardness causes Burn
Area: Flamethrower At Will Power [Fire]
Level: Dragon 11, Fire Starter 9, Blaster 15
Attack: Intelligence vs Hardness
Damage: 1d6 Fire per level
-Not Very Effective: 1d6 Fire per 2 levels
-Super Effective: 1d8 Fire per level
Added Effect: Burn
Area: Seems a bit lengthy, but on the face of it not too bad. I mean, you could fit them on cards. The idea here is that effectiveness basically just scales damage up or down. You could even just have a standard based on words, like: Weak (1d6 per 2 levels), Moderate (1d6 per level) and Strong (1d8 per level), and Weak that is downgraded becomes 1d4 per 2 levels, Strong that is upgraded becomes 2d6 per level and you can figure out the rest. That way, NVE and SE could be cut out entirely and Damage would just be "Weak Fire" for Ember and "Moderate Fire" for Flamethrower.

Note: this example makes the assumption that At Wills, as they can be swapped in, actually make attack rolls using the stats (not sure if this is a good idea, given stats might end up differing by fuckhuge numbers based on tier) whereas Prepared moves, having to rely on making guesses, auto-hit. We might not want to go with this. We might want to mostly ditch the stats and have everything auto-hit. Maybe just use the stats to determine special effects (meaning Heatran always burns Pidgey and Charmander never burns Giratina). Or maybe the stats are used for NVE/SE (where SE adds, in this case, user's Intelligence, to the damage, and NVE subtracts target Hardness from the damage).

So as you can see, there are a lot of what-ifs and maybes and stuff. Note that, because many Abilities interact with moves, we need to at least get the basics figured out before we can move onto what Abilities do.

Right, so, here's what we could expect from a table of all the moves. I just covered all the moves that fall under the various Fire movelists, however I also noted where they appear in other lists.

Feel free to treat the actual numbers as "X", I'm throwing examples out there in my attempt to keep this project moving.

Name	Type	Selected As	Availabile As
Blaze Kick	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 5, Capoeira 8
Fire Spin	Fire	At Will	Body Inferno 3, Fire Master 1, Fire Starter 1
Fire Punch	Fire	At Will	Body Inferno 1 Esoteric Martial Arts 1, Humanoid 1
Burning Maw	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 10
Flare Blitz	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 17, Fire Starter 18
Meltdown	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 19
Heat Wave	Fire	At Will	Body Inferno 13, Fire Master 11, Fire Starter 9
Overheat	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 15, Fire Master 15, Fire Starter 15, Lava User 17
Eruption	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 8, Fire Starter 8, Lava User 6
Trail of Fire	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 4, Fire Master 5
Personal Conflagration	Fire	At Will	Body Inferno 7
Flash Dash	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 9
Hot Potato	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 2, Lava User 2
Body of the Sun	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 10, Solar Power 11
Ignite	Fire	At Will	Body Inferno 5
Molten Aura	Fire	Prepared	Body Inferno 14
Ember	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 2, Fire Starter 2
Flame Wheel	Fire	At Will	Fire Master 4, Sacred 3
Sunny Day	Fire	At Will	Fire Master 8, Lava User 10, Flower Power 7, Solar Power 6
Fire Wall	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 11, Fire Starter 9
Burn-Off	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 6
Flame Pillar	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 12
Will-O-Wisp	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 5, Fire Starter 7, Gloom-and-Doom 4, Spooky 5
			Glowing Beacon 10, Sacred 6
Fire Pulse	Fire	At Will	Fire Master 7
Heat Metal	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 8, Lava User 9
Blast Burn	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 17, Fire Starter 16, Lava User 18, Blaster 18
Ember Pit	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 3, Fire Starter 8
Magma Storm	Fire	Prepared	Fire Master 19, Lava User 16
Smoke Screen	Fire	Prepared	Fire Starter 2
Flame Thrower	Fire	At Will	Fire Starter 9, Dragon 11, Blaster 15
Smog	Poison	Prepared	Fire Starter 6, Toxic Touch 4
Dragon Breath	Dragon	At Will	Fire Starter 13, Dragon 8, Little Dragon 10
Fire Fang	Fire	At Will	Fire Starter 5, Bite Club 4
Fire Blast	Fire	Prepared	Fire Starter 12, Blaster 10, Cannon 14
Lava Plume	Fire	At Will	Lava User 5
Lava Floor	Fire	Prepared	Lava User 10
Meltstone	Fire	Prepared	Lava User 15

Here we have the next set, subject to change.

Name	Type	Selected As	Availabile As
Withdraw	Water	Prepared	Bivalve 2, Deep Sea Creature 2, Turtle Power 1, Lobster 3
			Pod 2, Hard Rock 3
Clamp	Water	At Will	Bivalve 1, Deep Sea Creature 5
Iron Defence	Steel	At Will	Bivalve 10, Knight 10
Spike Cannon	Normal	Prepared	Bivalve 7, Deep Sea Creature 9
Water Gun	Water	Prepared	Bivalve 4, Deep Sea Creature 4, Hydro Warrior 5
			Torrential Power 3, Frosty 6, Little Dragon 6, Battle Toad 5, Wading Pool 3
			Water Fowl 4
Whirlpool	Water	Prepared	Bivalve 13, Deep Sea Creature 11, Ocean's Might 10, Dragon 13
			Muddy 14, Battletoad 12, Wading Pool 11
Suck	Water	At Will	Bivalve 6
Blow	Normal	Prepared	Bivalve 7
Icicle Spear	Ice	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 9, Frosty 4, Glacial Might 5, Living Snowball 6
Protect	Normal	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 11, Psychokinetic 9, Knight 8, Lobster 8, Worm 7
			Construct 8, Lazy Defence 10
Surf	Water	At Will	Deep Sea Creature 12, Hydro Warrior 7, Ocean's Might 7, Lobster 8
			Torrential Power 10, Frosty 12, Living Snowball 12, Dragon 13, Muddy 9, Battle Toad 9
			Wading Pool 10
Brine	Water	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 3, Ocean's Might 3, Torrential Power 6, Lobster 4
Dive	Water	At Will	Deep Sea Creature 6, Fishy 7, Ocean's Might 7, Frosty 9, Muddy 8
			Battletoad 8, Water Fowl 9
Spikes	Normal	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 13, Thorns 10, Desert Storm 12
Toxic Spikes	Poison	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 14, Thorns 9, Bee 12, Poisoner 10
Hydro Pump	Water	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 16, Hydro Warrior 16, Ocean's Might 15
			Torrential Power 16, Battletoad 17, Wading Pool 18, Water Fowl 18
Aqua Jet	Water	At Will	Deep Sea Creature 9, Battletoad 10, Wading Pool 8
Bubble Beam	Water	Prepared	Deep Sea Creature 13, Spitter 10, Torrential Power 11, Wading Pool 10
Water Pulse	Water	At Will	Deep Sea Creature 7, Ocean's Might 7, Spitter 8
			Torrential Power 8, Dragon 9, Fossil 8, Battletoad 9, Water Fowl 9
Splash Attack!	Water	At Will	Fishy 1, Charm 1, Little Dragon 1, Battletoad 1
			Power of Cute 1, Wading Pool 1, Piggy 1
Flail	Normal	At Will	Fishy 3, Dancer 1
Tackle	Normal	At Will	Fishy 2, Turtle Power 1, Collider 1, Light Metal 1, Star Power 1
			Pod 1, Worm 1, Lazy Defence 1, Livestock 1, Mouse 1, Predator 1, Sphere 1
			Mounted Combat 1, Piggy 2
Bubble	Water	Prepared	Fishy 4, Ocean's Might 5, Spitter 4, Wading Pool 4
Rain Dance	Water	Prepared	Hydro Warrior 13, Torrential Power 10, Living Battery 14
			Thunder God 12, Dragon 12, Muddy 11, Beauty Pageant 15, Dancer 11
			Water Fowl 12, Wading Pool 12, Geomancy 13, Ocean's Might 14
Aqua Tail	Water	Prepared	Ocean's Might 14, Hydro Warrior 13, Torrential Power 14, Muddy 16
			Serpent 12, Battletoad 13, Wading Pool 13
Screech	Normal	Prepared	Hydro Warrior 6, Beetle 7, Air Ace 6, Cat 5, Singer 8
Thrash	Normal	At Will	Hydro Warrior 11, Earth Rage 10, Vedic 9, Furious Monster 9
Superpower	Fighting	Prepared	Hydro Warrior 15, Esoteric Martial Arts 15
			Powerhouse 13, Furious Monster 17
Water Sport	Water	Prepared	Hydro Warrior 3, Battletoad 4, Water Fowl 3, Wading Pool 3
Mud Sport	Ground	Prepared	Hydro Warrior 4, Battletoad 4, Geomancy 3
Aqua Ring	Water	Prepared	Ocean's Might 9, Torrential Power 9, Beauty Pageant 10
Hydro Cannon	Water	Prepared	Ocean's Might 14, Battletoad 16, Blaster 15
Water Spout	Water	Prepared	Ocean's Might 18
Sheer Cold	Ice	Prepared	Ocean's Might 19, Frosty 18, Glacial Might 17, Living Snowball 18
Acid Armour	Poison	At Will	Ocean's Might 10, Caustic 7, Poisoner 10, Toxic Touch 9
Wall of Water	Water	At Will	Ocean's Might 12
Drown	Water	Prepared	Ocean's Might 18
Stockpile	Normal	At Will	Spitter 1, Bite Club 3, Caustic 5, Serpent 3, Lazy Defence 3
			Tentacular 5
Swallow	Normal	Prepared	Spitter 1, Bite Club 3, Caustic 5, Serpent 3, Lazy Defence 4
			Tentacular 5
Spit-Up	Normal	Prepared	Spitter 1, Bite Club 4, Caustic 6, Serpent 4, Lazy Defence 4
			Tentacular 6
Aurora Beam	Ice	Prepared	Spitter 10, Living Snowball 9, Moonlight 7, Glowing Beacon 7
			Lasers 8
Hyper Beam	Normal	Prepared	Spitter 16, Angry Dragon 14, Fossil 15, Blaster 14, Kaiju 14, Lasers 15
Bullet Seed	Grass	At Will	Spitter 4, Flower Power 1
Octazooka	Water	Prepared	Spitter 9
Rock Blast	Rock	Prepared	Spitter 6, Fossil 5, Rock On 5
Ice Beam	Ice	At Will	Spitter 12, Living Snowball 11, Blaster 11, Cannon 13, Lasers 12
			Wading Pool 13
Lock-On	Psychic	Prepared	Spitter 15, Light Metal 15, Aerialist 15
Thunderbolt	Lightning	Prepared	Spitter 8, Living Battery 6, Thunder God 6, Blaster 7
			Mind Bullets 8
Psybeam	Psychic	At Will	Spitter 14, Confuser 12, Empath 12, Mind Bullets 13, Lasers 13
Hurricane	Flying	Prepared	Torrential Power 19
Stormcall	Flying	Prepared	Torrential Power 16
Skull Bash	Normal	Prepared	Turtle Power 8, Rhino 7
Bite	Dark	At Will	Turtle Power 5, Bite Club 4, Vampire 6, Serpent 5, Big Dog 5, Cat 5
			Furious Monster 5, Predator 6, Weasel 6
Crunch	Dark	Prepared	Turtle Power 9, Bite Club 7, Lobster 9, Big Dog 8, Predator 9
			Weasel 8
Rapid Spin	Normal	At Will	Turtle Power 7, Star Power! 9, Construct 8, Capoeira 6
			Vedic 7, Dancer 6, Mouse 8, Speedster 9
Tail Whip	Normal	Prepared	Turtle Power 1, Serpent 1, Mouse 1, Predator 2, Mounted Combat 2
Growl	Normal	At Will	Turtle Power 1, Big Dog 1, Livestock 1, Mouse 2, Power of Cute 2
			Predator 1, Weasel 1

Also, some thoughts:
1. Feats: aye or nay? Those weird outlier moves or egg moves could probably be snagged this way.
2. Held items. I can see it being a good thing if Pokemon can only hold a single thing at a time, mostly because each person has up to six, so that's a lot of crap to keep track of if everyone has full gear and every pokemon does as well.
3. The limit. Is it "6 Pokemon you can own, ever", "you can own as many as you want but only actually carry six around with you at a time" or "You can even carry a hundred pokeballs with you, but you can only have six of them out and controlled at a time."? Seeing as everyone will actually need to write all the sheets out, it seems the more pokemon people can have, the less info you'll want on the sheets lest people need to carry filing cabinets around.
4. Linked to the above, how's XP to be handled? Every pokemon who takes part gets a share? Every pokemon you own gets a share? Pokemon don't exactly get XP, Trainers do and when they level up, they can spend their command points on levelling pokemon they own?

I do like the idea of feats for the reason you laid out, plus it gives a way to add in things that don't necessarily fit anywhere else yet should still be included. Same for held items, definitely want to have them, and an extremely harsh limit makes a lot of sense.

As far as the limit on number of pokemon goes. I like the "you can own as many as you want but only actually carry six around with you at a time" option. I guess that leads to the questions of where you store your extras and how do you switch them out and when is it feasible to do so. A huge part of the fun of pokemon (and I imagine this would translate to this project as well) is making teams and having six as a hard limit sort of squelches that. At the same time, having a large amount on hand that you can switch in and out from your active team during an actual adventure would require a lot of book keeping. So I think having to decide on a team per adventure is a nice happy medium. It might be prudent to make it possible to switch something out for a new pokemon you just caught, although I'm sure there are a number of problems with that that I'm not seeing at this hour.

For XP, it probably is a good idea to give trainers XP and let them spend their command points on levelling pokemon. That sort of neatly avoids the problem of a pokemon levelling up and suddenly you can't use the same team you were a second ago because your point value just exceeded your limit. I guess that's not a problem if getting XP doesn't force a pokemon to level. I'm still in favor of trainer's getting XP, and practically speaking they get to divvy up their XP however they want.

The jRPG equipment system where someone can have a ribbon or a ring or a scarf is kind of retarded. But it does work. Harsh item limits are almost certainly a very good idea.

-Username17

Oh, I agree that it's retarded, but it really seems to be what must be done.

I also agree that the Pokemon method of having nine million of the bastards but only actually carrying up to 6 at a time is the best thing to do. I hadn't considered "Swap between adventured, not during" but I like that idea.

Name	Type	Selected As	Availabile As
Sweet Scent	Normal	Prepared	Delicious 1, Flower Power 2, Mothership 3, Gasser 4
Gust	Flying	At Will	Delicious 1, Living Snowball 1, Dragon 4, Moth 1, Desert Storm 2
			Air Ace 1, Bird 1, Wind Rider 1, Water Fowl 1
Natural Gift	Normal	Prepared	Delicious 4, Flower Power 6, Seeds 7
Petal Dance	Grass	At Will	Delicious 13, Flower Power 10
Growth	Grass	Prepared	Delicious 5, Flower Power 4, Seeds 3, Collider 5
			Pokebomb 4, Amorphous Form 5
Endure	Normal	Prepared	Delicious 8, Glacial Might 7, Knight 6, Beetle 7, Construct 6
			Fossil 7, Hardbody 6, Counterattack! 7, Lazy Defence 6, Sphere 8
Acid Blood	Poison	At Will	Delicious 11
Heroes' Feast	Normal	Prepared	Delicious 17
Sleep Powder	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 5, Wind Rider 7, Gasser 6, Toxic Touch 7
			Ninjitsu 5
Spore	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 10, Gasser 12
Synthesis	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 9, Solar Power 8
Grass Whistle	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 8
Worry Seed	Grass	At Will	Flower Power 4, Seeds 3
Cotton Spore	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 6, Seeds 7, Weaver 5, Gasser 7
Solar Beam	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 15, Pain in the Grass 16, Blaster 16
			Solar Power 13, Lasers 15
Mega Drain	Grass	At Will	Flower Power 9, Pain in the Grass 9, Vampire 8, Slasher 10
Leaf Storm	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 19, Leafstress 17
Pollen Cloud	Grass	Prepared	Flower Power 14
Razor Leaf	Grass	At Will	Leafstress 1, Pain in the Grass 6, Ninjitsu 5
Magical Leaf	Grass	Prepared	Leafstress 9, Pain in the Grass 11
Leaf Blade	Grass	At Will	Leafstress 7
Wood Hammer	Grass	Prepared	Leafstress 13
Entangle	Grass	Prepared	Leafstress 10, Pain in the Grass 9, Tentacular 7
Ironwood	Steel	Prepared	Leafstress 12
Cut	Normal	At Will	Leafstress 8
Vine Whip	Grass	At Will	Pain in the Grass 1
Wrap	Normal	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 3, Serpent 2, Vedic 4, Tentacular 2
Leech Seed	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 5, Seeds 4, Thorns 6, Vampire 5, Gasser 6
Poison Powder	Poison	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 6, Wind Rider 7, Gasser 5
			Toxic Touch 6, Ninjitsu 6, Poisoner 5
Absorb	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 1, Vampire 1, Moth 1, Amorphous Form 1
			Toxic Touch 1, Slasher 2
Thorn Field	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 16
Energy Ball	Grass	At Will	Pain in the Grass 10, Blaster 10, Solar Power 9
Seed Bomb	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 13
Power Whip	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 15, Tentacular 16
Ingrain	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 7, Seeds 7, Fossil 10, Tentacular 9
Frenzy Plant	Grass	Prepared	Pain in the Grass 18, Blaster 20
Stun Spore	Grass	Prepared	Seeds 8, Moth 6, Wind Rider 10, Gasser 8, Ninjitsu 9
Spike Growth	Grass	Prepared	Thorns 10
Pin Missile	Bug	Prepared	Thorns 5, Bee 3
Needle Arm	Grass	At Will	Thorns 14
Poison Sting	Poison	At Will	Thorns 1, Bee 1, Weaver 2, Worm 1, Poisoner 1
			Dim Mak 1, Slasher 2
Swift	Normal	Prepared	Thorns 7, Living Battery 6, Star Power! 6, Aerialist 5
			Big Dog 7, Cat 6, Mouse 6, Predator 7, Weasel 5, Speedster 4
Briar Web	Grass	Prepared	Thorns 14
Wall of Thorns	Grass	Prepared	Thorns 15

So the actual movelists are going to end up looking something like this:

Pain in the Grass

Level	Ability	Type
1	Vine Whip	Grass
1	Absorb	Grass
3	Wrap	Normal
5	Leech Seed	Grass
6	Poison Powder	Poison
6	Razor Leaf	Grass
7	Ingrain	Grass
9	Mega Drain	Grass
9	Entangle	Grass
10	Energy Ball	Grass
11	Magical Leaf	Grass
13	Seed Bomb	Grass
15	Power Whip	Grass
16	Thorn Field	Grass
16	Solar Beam	Grass
18	Frenzy Plant	Grass

Does that look legible enough? Should we put more information on that table? There's totally room for more information (area in squares or number of potential targets, for example).

-Username17

If we made sure that no level ever gave out more than one prepared or at-will power (by for example: making Thornfield an At-will), we could display the information like this:

Pain in the Grass

Level	At Will	Type	Prepared	Type
1	Vine Whip	Grass	Absorb	Grass
2	-	-	-	-
3	-	-	Wrap	Normal
4	-	-	-	-
5	-	-	Leech Seed	Grass
6	Razor Leaf	Grass	Poison Powder	Poison
7	-	-	Ingrain	Grass
8	-	-	-	-
9	Mega Drain	Grass	Entangle	Grass
10	Energy Ball	Grass	-	-
11	-	-	Magical Leaf	Grass
12	-	-	-	-
13	-	-	Seed Bomb	Grass
14	-	-	-	-
15	-	-	Power Whip	Grass
16	Thorn Field	Grass	Solar Beam	Grass
17	-	-	-	-
18	-	-	Frenzy Plant	Grass
19	-	-	-	-
20	-	-	-	-

Same information. Is it clearer this way?
-Username17

I prefer the second option. It looks clearer to me, and sorting powers by colors means there's something additional I need to memorize.

The latter one is probably better, yeah. Also, as the lists are updated I can quickly see where I fucked up and left too many blank levels or overloaded levels with too much stuff, and can fix that.

I'm not sure it really needs any more information - people will be referencing the actual move descriptions anyway.

Name	Type	Selected As	Availabile As
Charge	Electric	At Will	Living Battery 1, Thunder God 2, Mind Bullets 4
			Baton Passer 2, Glowing Beacon 1
Discharge	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 1, Thunder God 3, Electromagnet 3
			Glowing Beacon 2
Thunder Wave	Electric	At Will	Living Battery 10, Static Touch 12
Thunder Shock	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 7 Static Touch 7
Thunder	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 15, Thunder God 13, Blaster 16
Charge Beam	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 12
Supersonic	Normal	Prepared	Living Battery 5, Confuser 3, Electromagnet 4, Moth 3
			Desert Storm 4, Wind Rider 3, Water Fowl 5
Sonic Boom	Electric	At Will	Living Battery 8, Static Touch 7, Light Metal 7
Spark	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 9, Static Touch 6, Electromagnet 7, Glowing Beacon 8
Zap Cannon	Electric	At Will	Living Battery 15, Electromagnet 15, Lasers 16
Light Screen	Psychic	Prepared	Living Battery 10, Thunder God 9, Charm 6, Psychokinetic 6
			Moonlight 5, Glowing Beacon 7, Sacred 5
Volt Tackle	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 20, Static Touch 19
Thunder Punch	Electric	Prepared	Living Battery 2, Esoteric Martial Arts 1, Martial Artist 5
			Humanoid 6
Quick Attack	Normal	At Will	Static Touch 4, Tricky 3, Beetle 2, Aerialist 2, Air Ace 1
			Cat 1, Cheerleader 3, Mouse 1, Predator 2, Weasel 1, Speedster 1
Thunder Fang	Electric	At Will	Static Touch 3, Thunder God 4, Bite Club 2
Shocking Grasp	Electric	Prepared	Static Touch 6, Electromagnet 7
Chain Lightning	Electric	Prepared	Thunder God 18
Thunder Clap	Electric	Prepared	Thunder God 15

I guess this is the idea then.

Bonehead

Level	At Will	Type	Prepared	Type
1	Bone Club	Ground	-	-
2	-	-	-	-
3	Headbutt	Normal	-	-
4	-	-	-	-
5	-	-	-	-
6	-	-	-	-
7	-	-	-	-
8	-	-	-	-
9	-	-	Bonemerang	Ground
10	-	-	-	-
11	-	-	-	-
12	Iron Head	Steel	-	-
13	-	-	-	-
14	-	-	-	-
15	-	-	-	-
16	-	-	-	-
17	Bone Rush	Ground	-	-
18	-	-	-	-
19	-	-	-	-
20	-	-	Double Edge	Normal

Burrower

Level	At Will	Type	Prepared	Type
1	Mud Slap	Ground	Quicksand	Ground
2	-	-	-	-
3	-	-	-	-
4	-	-	Rock Slide	Rock
5	-	-	-	-
6	-	-	-	-
7	Dig	Ground	Pot-Hole	Ground
8	-	-	Rock Climb	Rock
9	Bulk Up	Normal	-	-
10	-	-	-	-
11	-	-	Hidden Power	Varies
12	-	-	Imprison	Psychic
13	U-Turn	Bug	-	-
14	-	-	Magnitude	Ground
15	Dust Cloud	Ground	-	-
16	-	-	Rock Tomb	Rock
17	-	-	Earth Power	Earth Power
18	Gravity	Psychic	-	-
19	-	-	Earthquake	Ground
20	-	-	-	-

Digger

Level	At Will	Type	Prepared	Type
1	Mud Slap	Ground	-	-
2	Sand Attack	Ground	-	-
3	-	-	-	-
4	-	-	-	-
5	Dig	Ground	-	-
6	-	-	Defense Curl	Normal
7	-	-	-	-
8	-	-	Rock Slide	Rock
9	-	-	-	-
10	-	-	Magnitude	Ground
11	-	-	-	-
12	-	-	-	-
13	-	-	-	-
14	-	-	Rock Tomb	Rock
15	-	-	-	-
16	-	-	-	-
17	-	-	-	-
18	-	-	Earthquake	Ground
19	-	-	-	-
20	-	-	-	-

Let's get some ICE lists going!

As usual, I notice the occasional error on my part. For instant "Ice Darts" (Frosty list) is totally meant to be "Icicle Spear" (already included on the Water chart).

Name	Type	Selected As	Availabile As
Ice Shard	Ice	At Will	Frosty 1, Glacial Might 1, Living Snowball 1
Icicle	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 7
Ice Punch	Ice	At Will	Frosty 3, Esoteric Martial Arts 3, Martial Artist 5, Humanoid 4
Hail	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 9, Living Snowball 9
Powder Snow	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 2, Glacial Might 3, Living Snowball 2
Blizzard	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 14, Living Snowball 14, Blaster 15
Icy Wind	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 8, Glacial Might 7, Living Snowball 7
Avalanche	Ice	At Will	Frosty 10, Glacial Might 9, Living Snowball 10
			Hard Rock 11, Rock On 10, Counter Attack 9
Ice Skate	Ice	At Will	Frosty 2, Living Snowball 2
Frozen Water	Ice	Prepared	Frosty 11
Clear Sky	Normal	Prepared	Frosty 12, Aerialist 12
Yawn	Normal	At Will	Glacial Might 4, Bite Club 5, Lazy Defence 4
			Power of Cute 5, Sleepyhead 4
Ice Fang	Ice	At Will	Glacial Might 13, Living Snowball 13, Bite Club 12, Weasel 13
Rest	Normal	Prepared	Glacial Might 8, Big Dog 7, Cat 7
			Lazy Defence 6, Livestock 8, Power of Cute 7
			Predator 8, Sleepyhead 6, Weasel 7
Rock Slide	Rock	At Will	Glacial Might 5, Construct 6, Hard Rock 5
			Pokebomb 7, Burrower 5, Digger 5, Muddy 6
Sleep Talk	Normal	At Will	Glacial Might 13, Power of Cute 12, Sleepyhead 12
Mist	Ice	Prepared	Glacial Might 14, Living Snowball 14, Vampire 14
Take Down	Normal	At Will	Glacial Might 7, Collider 6, Hardbody 6
			Muddy 7, Rhino 5, Sphere 6
Giga Impact	Normal	Prepared	Glacial Might 19, Collider 18, Construct 20
			Fossil 20, Pokebomb 19, Blaster 19
Ancient Power	Rock	Prepared	Glacial Might 16, Cosmic Forces 14, Fossil 13
			Tentacular 16, Kaiju 15, Sacred 16

That was a quick one!

Edit: numbers!

FUCK! Guess who accidentally chose "Edit" instead of "Quote" to use the Psychic table!

Here it is, copy-pastad from using the Back button, into pastebin. I'd love it if someone else could table it, I can't be fucked. Psychic is too fucking long.

http://pastebin.com/f6dc94687

I'll probably have time in the next couple of days.

oh hai

Name	Type	Selected As	Available As
Meditate	Psychic	At Will	Brain Fu 5, Dim Mak 5, Esoteric Martial Arts 5, Martial Artist 5
Zen Headbutt	Psychic	At Will	Brain Fu 1, Collider 1, Boxing 4, Esoteric Martial Arts 3
Detect	Psychic	Prepared	Brain Fu 10, Empath 8, Cosmic Forces 9
Agility	Psychic	Prepared	Brain Fu 7, Living Snowball 6, Bee 5, Aerialist 5
			Poisoner 6, Ninjitsu 5, Swordsman 7, Baton Passer 5
			Cheerleader 6, Speedster 4, Weasel 5, Predator 6
Aura Sphere	Fighting	Prepared	Brain Fu 18, Cosmic Forces 20, Dim Mak 19
			Martial Artist 19, Blaster 20, Kaiju 20
Psycho Cut	Psychic	At Will	Brain Fu 15, Psychokinetic 13
Charm	Psychic	Prepared	Charm 3, Cheerleader 4, Oh Shiny! 3, Power of Cute 3
Attract	Normal	At Will	Charm 1, Wind Rider 3, Beauty Pageant 1, Dancer 2, Glowing Beacon 2
Captivate	Psychic	Prepared	Charm 1, Wind Rider 3, Beauty Pageant 1
			Dancer 1, Oh Shiny! 2, Glowing Beacon 2
Sing	Psychic	At Will	Charm 6, Beauty Pageant 8, Cat 7
			Magical Fairy 6, Power of Cute 7, Singer 5
Lucky Chant	Psychic	Prepared	Charm 12, Cheerleader 10, Magical Fairy 11, Singer 11
Present	Normal	At Will	Charm 2
Fake Tears	Normal	Prepared	Charm 7, Evil Bastard 8, Cheerleader 8, Power of Cute 6
Sweet Kiss	Normal	Prepared	Charm 11, Magical Fairy 11, Nurse 13, Power of Cute 10
Return	Normal	At Will	Charm 7, Cheerleader 9, Dancer 9, Oh Shiny! 8, Power of Cute 8
Heal Bell	Normal	Prepared	Charm 14, Livestock 12, Nurse 13
Safeguard	Psychic	Prepared	Charm 14, Cosmic Forces 13, Moonlight 13, Knight 15
			Construct 15, Wind Rider 15, Cheerleader 14, Nurse 14, Sacred 13
Wish	Psychic	Prepared	Charm 20, Cosmic Forces 18, Star Power! 19
Switcheroo	Dark	Prepared	Charm 12, Tricky 11, Weasel 12
Encore	Normal	Prepared	Charm 8, Empath 8, Baton Passer 9
			Cheerleader 8, Magical Fairy 9, Singer 8, Ditto 9
Confusion	Psychic	At Will	Confuser 1, Empath 1, Dancer 4
Confuse Ray	Ghost	Prepared	Confuser 3, Spooky 2,
			Mothership 4, Ninjitsu 4, Beauty Pageant 4, Glowing Beacon 3
Kinesis	Psychic	Prepared	Confuser 7, Mind Bullets 7, Psychokinetic 5
Psycho Boost	Psychic	Prepared	Confuser 17
Psycho Shift	Psychic	At Will	Confuser 14, Moonlight 15
Power Swap	Psychic	Prepared	Confuser 12, Psychokinetic 13
Amnesia	Psychic	Prepared	Confuser 4, Empath 4, Fossil 6, Sleepyhead 4
Skill Swap	Psychic	Prepared	Confuser 11
Puppetpals	Ghost	At Will	Dominator 1, Body Snatcher 1
Dominate	Psychic	Prepared	Dominator 11, Body Snatcher 10
Hypnosis	Psychic	Prepared	Dominator 9, Empath 10, Moonlight 10, Vampire 9
Command	Psychic	At Will	Dominator 8, Words of Doom 9
Corruption	Psychic	Prepared	Dominator 16
Sending	Psychic	Prepared	Dominator 7
Scary Face	Normal	Prepared	Dominator 3, Spooky 2, Rock On 4, You Rock 4, Serpent 3
Roar	Normal	At Will	Dominator 5, Gloom and Doom 6, Words of Doom 6
			Fossil 7, Rock On 6, Powerhouse 5, Big Dog 5, Furious Monster 5
			Lazy Defence 7, Predator 5, Sacred 6
Telepathy	Psychic	At Will	Empath 1
Taunt	Dark	Prepared	Empath 9, Bully 8, Knight 11, Cat 10
Extra-Sensory	Psychic	At Will	Empath 13, Sacred 14
Calm Mind	Psychic	Prepared	Empath 8, Dim Mak 9, Sacred 8
Dream Eater	Psychic	Prepared	Empath 10, Nightmare 9, Vampire 9, Gloom and Doom 10
Flatter	Dark	Prepared	Empath 8, Tricky 6
Mean Look	Normal	At Will	Empath 12, Bully 10, Evil Bastard 10, Vampire 11, Assassin 11
Future Sight	Psychic	Prepared	Empath 15, Doomsday 13, Sacred 15
Heart Swap	Psychic	At Will	Empath 16
Psychic	Psychic	Prepared	Empath 17, Mind Bullets 17, Psychokinetic 16
Mind Blast	Psychic	Prepared	Mind Bullets 10
Force Choke	Psychic	At Will	Mind Bullets 5, Wraith 5
Magic Missile	Psychic	At Will	Mind Bullets 1
Force Lance	Psychic	Prepared	Mind Bullets 15
Teleport	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 1, Dimensional Rift 1, Time Lord 1
Disable	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 3, Weaver 4
Psy-wave	Psychic	At Will	Psychokinetic 1
Imprison	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 8, Evil Bastard 9, Burrower 10
Reflect	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 14, Cosmic Forces 14
Tele-frag	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 20
Portal Drop	Psychic	Prepared	Psychokinetic 18, Dimensional Rift 17
Fly	Flying	At Will	Psychokinetic 7, Angry Dragon 7, Dragon 6
			Bee 4, Moth 4, Aerialist 4, Air Ace 3, Bird 3
Poltergeist	Ghost	At Will	Psychokinetic 1, Gloom and Doom 1, Spooky 1
Fissure	Ground	Prepared	Psychokinetic 19, Rock On 18, Desert Storm 18, Muddy 19, Lazy Defence 17